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the problem is that was the last deficit increase. the $1.2 trillion is sort of already in the bank. the credit agencies, by the way, assume we're going to make those cuts. so if you're suggesting that we do additional sequestration on the smaller part of the budget, the 38% we talked about, domestic discretionary, i suppose that's one way you could go. but, it ignores the fact that we've got this bigger part of the budget that's more politically sensitive, but has to be dealt with. the biggest part of the budget and the fastest growing part of the budget. it also, the $1.2 trillion is in the bank because of the discussions we had two years ago. >> you think the democrats would not see that as a credible threat? they would say go ahead, let the sequestration kick in? >> well, i think democrats and republicans alike would like to alter the way the sequestration works. but i hope that nobody's talking about not making good on our commitment to reach the $1.2 trillion. i'm certainly not. and those of us who are concerned on the across-th
the problem is that was the last deficit increase. the $1.2 trillion is sort of already in the bank. the credit agencies, by the way, assume we're going to make those cuts. so if you're suggesting that we do additional sequestration on the smaller part of the budget, the 38% we talked about, domestic discretionary, i suppose that's one way you could go. but, it ignores the fact that we've got this bigger part of the budget that's more politically sensitive, but has to be dealt with. the biggest...
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the deficit. so it shouldn't be surprising, given all this talk, that the american people think washington is hurting, rather than helping, the country at the moment. they see their representatives consumed with partisan brinksmanship over paying our bills, while they overwhelmingly want us to focus on growing the economy and creating more jobs. so let's finish this debate. let's give our businesses and the world the certainty that our economy and our reputation are still second to none. we pay our bills. we handle our business. and then we can move on -- because america has a lot to do. we've got to create more jobs. ofve got to boost the wages those who have work. we've got to reach for energy independence. we've got to reform our immigration system. we've got to give our children the best education possible, and we've got to do everything we can to protect them from the horrors of gun violence. and let me say i'm grateful to vice president biden for his work on this issue of gun violence and fo
the deficit. so it shouldn't be surprising, given all this talk, that the american people think washington is hurting, rather than helping, the country at the moment. they see their representatives consumed with partisan brinksmanship over paying our bills, while they overwhelmingly want us to focus on growing the economy and creating more jobs. so let's finish this debate. let's give our businesses and the world the certainty that our economy and our reputation are still second to none. we pay...
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and also deal with the trade deficits, but even more importantly, what do we do to create an environment where businesses can grow and we can expand economic development? because this is still a very, very fragile expansion, though it is a expansion from probably the deepest recession we've ever been in wince the depression. a lot of pent-up demand, so i think this debate is centered on the right thing, what do we do to create an environment where businesses can grow. >> if we need and if republicans argue that what needs to be done is to cut the deficit, they need to perhaps go into default, are you okay with that? ivities illustrates well again i think we need to look at that time it through the lens of economy development. anything to slow this expansion down would have very, very serious consequences to all of us. >> let me ask you about your announcement last week. you were going to hire engineers, computer programmers. last year you announced to add 12,000 jobs by 2015. given everything that's going on, how confident are you that you'll still be able to meet that goal? >> well, i t
and also deal with the trade deficits, but even more importantly, what do we do to create an environment where businesses can grow and we can expand economic development? because this is still a very, very fragile expansion, though it is a expansion from probably the deepest recession we've ever been in wince the depression. a lot of pent-up demand, so i think this debate is centered on the right thing, what do we do to create an environment where businesses can grow. >> if we need and if...
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. >> this is turning stuff, and the president is saying things like not to worry about the deficit. that is really for the proletarian, the more pedestrian takers among master of the deficit, the sustainable that. this is abject non says that he is doing, and he is being hailed by the national liberal media as some sort of -- some sort of articulation. >> i am one of those who is in the center, a supporter of the bowls' simpson planned and i agree with your characterization the problem is, you are offering a countervailing you. the republicans, with all due respect, are not. there is not an alternative narrative, not pushing the president to negotiate, and he is not talking to anybody. lou: i love this comment. the president saying of the second amendment is not whether we believe in the second member not. you have to literally hear this to believe it. but. >> the issue here is not whether or not we believe in the second amendment. the issue is, are there sensible steps that we can take to make sure that somebody like the individual in newtown cannot walk into a school and gun down
. >> this is turning stuff, and the president is saying things like not to worry about the deficit. that is really for the proletarian, the more pedestrian takers among master of the deficit, the sustainable that. this is abject non says that he is doing, and he is being hailed by the national liberal media as some sort of -- some sort of articulation. >> i am one of those who is in the center, a supporter of the bowls' simpson planned and i agree with your characterization the...
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deficit. the president of the united states -- it is laughable that he would talk about republicans not being responsible on debt issues. when this president has been in the white house sin january 20, 2009, and he's yet to do anything significant on social security or medicare. he cut medicare. so he can start a new entitlement program. that's -- not making medicare more sol vent. he doesn't done anything to curb the cost of medical expenses which he said he was going do. he did nothing. he struck back room deals with hospitals, with special interests, and now he's saying republicans are being reckless? no, no. at some point it becomes more reckless to continue raising the debt ceiling without having democrats come forward with a budget, by the president of the united states, coming forward with a plan to save medicare, medicaid, and social security. we had erskine bowles on. he was very clear. steve ratner agrees. zeke emanuel agrees. democrats, good democrats, agree. that medicare and medic
deficit. the president of the united states -- it is laughable that he would talk about republicans not being responsible on debt issues. when this president has been in the white house sin january 20, 2009, and he's yet to do anything significant on social security or medicare. he cut medicare. so he can start a new entitlement program. that's -- not making medicare more sol vent. he doesn't done anything to curb the cost of medical expenses which he said he was going do. he did nothing. he...
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so, obama's entire premise that we need a balanced approach to cutting the deficit is based on a huge fiction which is that obama's plan will cut 4 trillion during the the next decade. it will do no such thing. he's basing on a falsity, just like day one when he's been in office, distort and pr propgandize. now, republicans need to understand all of this dealing with obama. they're dealing with a man who is reckless, ruthless as any president they will ever encounter and my next guest says he has a plan that mr. bolster the republicans hand when it comes to dealing with the democrats on the issue of debt and much more. ohio senator rob portman is here. and what do you make of obama, only 2006 a vote against the debt ceiling. >> it went further than that. he said it would be unpatriotic. >> sean: that's another, i actually have that clip. you want to see it. >> sure. >> sean: let's show the videotape. >> the problem is, is that the way bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the bank of china in the name of our children, driving up our national debt
so, obama's entire premise that we need a balanced approach to cutting the deficit is based on a huge fiction which is that obama's plan will cut 4 trillion during the the next decade. it will do no such thing. he's basing on a falsity, just like day one when he's been in office, distort and pr propgandize. now, republicans need to understand all of this dealing with obama. they're dealing with a man who is reckless, ruthless as any president they will ever encounter and my next guest says he...
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. >> obama: so while i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce our deficits, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they've already racked up. >> bill: so the question -- so why should the president entertain this notion that the debt ceiling which republicans voted for 19 times under george w. bush without a peep, you know, why should he entertain the notion that suddenly this is a matter of big negotiations? >> well, he's trying to say that he shouldn't but unfortunately the house republicans have the majority in congress. unfortunately for him, so when he says he doesn't want to debate it and negotiate over it, he is running up against the fact that people who have the power in the house do want to debate it and that can cause problems. he certainly is pushing this idea here to try to remove this from the realm of what he wants and the american people see as rational debate. he used a lot of words yesterday that were very strong to try to make people see this as what he called an absurd way of
. >> obama: so while i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce our deficits, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they've already racked up. >> bill: so the question -- so why should the president entertain this notion that the debt ceiling which republicans voted for 19 times under george w. bush without a peep, you know, why should he entertain the notion that suddenly this is a matter of...
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he's said it's unrealistic to tie the debt limit to deficit reduction. he said it has been separate. that is just not accurate. >> sean: last 30 years? >> last 27 years every major reduction is start going through 1990s all three agreements. recent one, budget control act the reason we're talking about the debt limit discussion. so this is an appropriate time to raise the issue. look, he said people voted for him because they wanted to increase the debt limit. i don't think so. that is not what polling shows. it shows people want to get spending under control. >> sean: for a brief hour the obama media which did not go do a good job from my estimation woke up and challenged him. and looked angry on hypocrisy. how would you deal with the president that is very good at politics, demonizing and pushing republicans into a corner? what is the best strategy? >> well, i agree with you it's interesting. you had reporters saying wait a minute. you said just the opposite but also said the point just made a second ago which is why are you saying it's been straight a
he's said it's unrealistic to tie the debt limit to deficit reduction. he said it has been separate. that is just not accurate. >> sean: last 30 years? >> last 27 years every major reduction is start going through 1990s all three agreements. recent one, budget control act the reason we're talking about the debt limit discussion. so this is an appropriate time to raise the issue. look, he said people voted for him because they wanted to increase the debt limit. i don't think so. that...
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down and would pay down the deficit. guest: i like the point you are making. a very close friend of mind in scranton is a jeep dealer. and he was going to sell a cherokee in beijing, it costs about $100,000 which is outrageous. they add all sorts of import and do the fees and that just will not happen here. we need to rethink some of these trade imbalances. for example, of the note to the big box retailer and you can see the big box retailers and the countries that do not have strict labor laws, workplace safety laws, environmental regulations to protect, in a sensible fashion, the economy. foreign countries can sell them cheaper the in this country and i think that applies to automobiles as well. maybe the way to have these sensible regulations is to have a sensible tax along the line you are talking about. host: we are talking with freshman democrat from pennsylvania, rep cartwright. next caller. caller: the definition of the fault is not being able to pay your bills. -- the definition of default is not being able to p
down and would pay down the deficit. guest: i like the point you are making. a very close friend of mind in scranton is a jeep dealer. and he was going to sell a cherokee in beijing, it costs about $100,000 which is outrageous. they add all sorts of import and do the fees and that just will not happen here. we need to rethink some of these trade imbalances. for example, of the note to the big box retailer and you can see the big box retailers and the countries that do not have strict labor...
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. >> ironically would probably increase our deficit. it is absurd. >> the president won't back down on the debt ceiling or on gun safety. >> the pressing issue of gun reform. >> exactly one month after the tragedy at sandy hook. >> if there is a step we can take that will save even one child we should take that step. >> gun violence continues to wreak its deadly toll each day. >> this is a moment to act. >> congress is incapable of passing an assault weapon ban. >> everybody is totally upset by it. >> what makes sense? what works? >> this is a moment to act. >> this is a promise to turn the conversation into actions. >> if there is a step we can take that will save even one child, we should take that step. >> the lecturer in chief returns to the east room of the white house today to explain something to congressional republicans that previous presidents have not had to explain to congress. >> i want to be clear about this. the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more s
. >> ironically would probably increase our deficit. it is absurd. >> the president won't back down on the debt ceiling or on gun safety. >> the pressing issue of gun reform. >> exactly one month after the tragedy at sandy hook. >> if there is a step we can take that will save even one child we should take that step. >> gun violence continues to wreak its deadly toll each day. >> this is a moment to act. >> congress is incapable of passing an...
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in november he said he had a deficit of $2 billion. he stands by that number but says -- >> it is roughly in balance. >> the difference in numbers is small and that the government's plan shows discipline. >> he should be commended for the plan. >> paying down debt and strengthsenning education are the right -- strengthening education are the right choices for california. >> reporter: he says another area of agreement is how quickly the governor's budget's numbers could fly. >> the biggest risk could come next month and that is from washington, d.c. in what the government chooses to do or not to do. >> reporter: if washington fails to act on the debt ceiling the national economy could -- [no audio] >> reporter: because of the potential risks to our state budget that is one reason they say they want to create that $1 billion reserve and where the budget stands, that will be better known in may when we will know if the surplus has grown. ken pritchett, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 49er fans are looking forward to a huge game this weekend. if
in november he said he had a deficit of $2 billion. he stands by that number but says -- >> it is roughly in balance. >> the difference in numbers is small and that the government's plan shows discipline. >> he should be commended for the plan. >> paying down debt and strengthsenning education are the right -- strengthening education are the right choices for california. >> reporter: he says another area of agreement is how quickly the governor's budget's numbers...
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he has run trillion dollar deficits for the past four years of his administration. you have to pass a budget in the united states senate. he will be doing his sort of constitution getting a budget up to the congress. this is a challenge. we have to have a clear look at how we can reduce spending in this country. connell: whenever the limit is actually reached and it is not raised. then you start to play the political blame game. pay some bills and not others. though the republicans risk taking a lot of the blame for this? >> i think that we all, as americans, should be concerned. there is default on government payments and there is the ball on treasury. connell: who knows how the market reacts. are the odds higher than they have ever been, do you think? >> i do not think so. i hope not. the treasury has extraordinary means that they are able to take. republicans rightly see this as a leverage point. i know that the president of the united states voted six years ago against raising the debt ceiling. connell: are they to gather on it? speaker boehner, we cut a deal, b
he has run trillion dollar deficits for the past four years of his administration. you have to pass a budget in the united states senate. he will be doing his sort of constitution getting a budget up to the congress. this is a challenge. we have to have a clear look at how we can reduce spending in this country. connell: whenever the limit is actually reached and it is not raised. then you start to play the political blame game. pay some bills and not others. though the republicans risk taking...
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. >> while i am willing to p compromise and find common ground over the deficit we cannot afford a debate about whether or not they should pay the bills they have already racked up. congressional republicans refuse to pay america's bills on time social security checks and veteran's benefits will be delayed. >> we are not going to do it without putting in place a spending reform. these cuts promise to transpire but never do are not going to do the job any more. >> senate republican leader mitch mcconnell wanted to say the president needs to get serious about it. you can see the battle lines clearly drawn in washington. >> also pointing out in 2006 president obama then senator voted against raising the ceiling. >> they discussed his time spent in prison whether he feared for his life and what the first moments were like for him. >> i came in the prison around 3 in the morning. initially there's some pressure put on me. they tried to export money from the family, but the american consulate was contacted and they moved me out of the general population and put me into like a single place by my
. >> while i am willing to p compromise and find common ground over the deficit we cannot afford a debate about whether or not they should pay the bills they have already racked up. congressional republicans refuse to pay america's bills on time social security checks and veteran's benefits will be delayed. >> we are not going to do it without putting in place a spending reform. these cuts promise to transpire but never do are not going to do the job any more. >> senate...
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that ate up a good decade, not to mention adding to the defic deficit. then we had a gargantuan recession and fiscal crisis. so we now are maybe getting a little bit back to normal, people are looking at this structure and the legacy of the last two decades, which is enormous deficits and saying okay, what do we do about this going forward? and that's were i think we get the potential for change. >> ron williams on the iowa has a question. >> the question is really based on -- what you learn business is once an organization is created, once it lives it wants to grow. and that organizations also have a way of becoming their own customer. ending this is it just doesn't work because there's no revenue in being your own customer. so the question really is a sidestep question which is, what happens if we can develop ways to sunset organizations, regulations that would require a review of the original problem which is often a very legitimate problem, doesn't still exist, does it require the same solution. the second question or comment is around risk, and i'm
that ate up a good decade, not to mention adding to the defic deficit. then we had a gargantuan recession and fiscal crisis. so we now are maybe getting a little bit back to normal, people are looking at this structure and the legacy of the last two decades, which is enormous deficits and saying okay, what do we do about this going forward? and that's were i think we get the potential for change. >> ron williams on the iowa has a question. >> the question is really based on -- what...
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he said trimming the budget deficit should be a different discussion separate from the debt ceiling. >> raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. all it does is say that america will pay its bills, and we are not a deadbeat nation. >> clearly house speaker john boehner thinks differently. he responded by saying, quote, the american people do not support raising the debt ceiling without reducing government spending at the same time. >>> these pens are designed to be used only by one person, but an investigation discovered that many of them were used on multiple people. >>> are you in hawaii or going there anytime soon? surfers, beware. check out this video. it's a real-life jauss. two sharks were swimming dangerously close to the show. can you believe it? look at that. you could wade in and be bitten, eaten. last year there were a total of 11 shark attacks in hawaii. >> that's what i call dangerously close. >> oh, my goodness. >> so some people in the southeast waking up to the dual danger of flooding and ice. alexandra steele in the weather center. good morning. >
he said trimming the budget deficit should be a different discussion separate from the debt ceiling. >> raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. all it does is say that america will pay its bills, and we are not a deadbeat nation. >> clearly house speaker john boehner thinks differently. he responded by saying, quote, the american people do not support raising the debt ceiling without reducing government spending at the same time. >>> these pens are...
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that is if congress doesn't come up with what it calls a credible medium term deficit reduction plan. understand that fitch is not just looking for an 11th hour debt ceiling deal that sets the table for another mini crisis down the road. the federal government hit the debt limit as you know on december 31st. the treasury is using so-called extraordinary measures to pay its bills through mid-february or early march. now, fitch predicts washington will extend the debt ceiling despite the current war of words between president obama and republicans in congress. what happens if we get downgraded? it happened before. remember 2011, when standard & poor's did it. that hit markets and the wider economy hard, but it didn't cause interest rates to increase. this time could be different, however, because the rest of the world is getting its act together. even successful businesses like ford are worried. here's what ceo alan mulally told me today. >> i think the most important thing to your point is that we come together around a solution that allows us to live within our means, to reduce our bu
that is if congress doesn't come up with what it calls a credible medium term deficit reduction plan. understand that fitch is not just looking for an 11th hour debt ceiling deal that sets the table for another mini crisis down the road. the federal government hit the debt limit as you know on december 31st. the treasury is using so-called extraordinary measures to pay its bills through mid-february or early march. now, fitch predicts washington will extend the debt ceiling despite the current...
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president obama has racked up more spending, $1 trillion deficits. and it's time that he join us in this effort to get our fiscal house in order. what is a drag on the economy is the spending. that is what is hurting hard-working taxpayer right now. and so we need him to join us in this effort. >> at the end of the day, this is going to be a question about public opinion. what makes you think talking about not raising the debt ceiling or shutting down the government, what have you, is a winner in the court of public opinion? >> well, again, we don't want to shut down the government, but in the court of public opinion, people also know that the federal government and the out of control spending is unsustainable. and large majorities of the american people want us to cut spending, to start making the tough decisions, to balance our budgets, start living within our means. the american people, in their own families, they understand that you have to do that. you have to make the tough decisions. you have to get your budget, you've got to put it in order.
president obama has racked up more spending, $1 trillion deficits. and it's time that he join us in this effort to get our fiscal house in order. what is a drag on the economy is the spending. that is what is hurting hard-working taxpayer right now. and so we need him to join us in this effort. >> at the end of the day, this is going to be a question about public opinion. what makes you think talking about not raising the debt ceiling or shutting down the government, what have you, is a...
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he said yesterday we have not connected the debt limit with deficit reduction. nothing could be further from the truth. in the past three decades the only thing that has worked in washington to get the spending under control is to tie debt spending to a limit. gramm-rudman. it is a tool that can and should be used. >>gretchen: he seems to think it has nothing to do with spending. what would be your counter to that? >> it has everything to do with spending. again, it's been the most effective tool to be used to try to get washington to finally begin to tighten its belt and do the right thing. if we don't, the country does become bankrupt. some would grew it already -- some would argue it already is, as we saw in that hbo -- hank paulson looked good. >>gretchen: he wasn't playing himself. unfortunately we're out of time, but this discussion could go on and on. >> the american people want us to deal with this issue, and this has been the time and place to do it. we ought to do it in the next few weeks. >>gretchen: senator, great to see you. more "fox & friends" mor
he said yesterday we have not connected the debt limit with deficit reduction. nothing could be further from the truth. in the past three decades the only thing that has worked in washington to get the spending under control is to tie debt spending to a limit. gramm-rudman. it is a tool that can and should be used. >>gretchen: he seems to think it has nothing to do with spending. what would be your counter to that? >> it has everything to do with spending. again, it's been the most...